*-TUT-* How to Reflow Your 360 (Without a Rework Station)

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*-TUT-* How to Reflow Your 360 (Without a Rework Station)

Postby Deary65 » Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:56 pm

This was my first time doing my xbox in an oven and it fixed all the errors I had. I reflowed the GPU, RAM and Southbridge. It is not necessary to do all of these but doing them all cannot hurt.
Doing this can fix errors such as: E67; E69; E71; E73; E74; E76; E79.
0013; 0012; 0011; 0001; 0020; 0021; 0022; 0100; 0102; 0103; 0110; 0010 and more.

I do not take responsibility to any damage you do to yours or any other person's xbox and/or oven

Anything red in this tutorial is important to keep in mind.

1. Start with your motherboard.
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2. This is the stuff I used. You don't have to use the exact same stuff. Anything that is a poor conductor of heat will be good.
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3. Make a base layer of (sello)tape or light material.
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4. Then a layer of foam, bubblewrap or whatever you're using.
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5. Then another layer of old clothing or whatever you are using.
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6. Now a layer of foil.
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7. Now it's time for the oven. Put it in at room temperature then turn it up to 90C or straight to step no. 8 to let it heat up.
Make sure you have it on something so that the heat can get underneath.
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8. Let it heat up to 150C. Once at that temperature leave it to heat for 30secs to 1min.
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9. Turn it up to 180C. Once at the temperature leave it for another 30secs to 1min.
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10. Then up to 200C. Once heated, leave it for 1 minute. You will probably get a (burning) smell. This is most likely your tape melting and/or burning.
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11. Finally heat it up to 230C. Once heated, leave for a good four mins. Smoke may arise into the room, I suggest opening the windows and sticking a fan in the room.
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12. After a few mins turn the oven off and leave it in there up to 5 minutes to let the smoke gradually seep out.
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13. Open the door and leave it in or take it out (your choice). Some of my foil came off but no biggy.
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14. Once cooled start stripping the layers away. As you can see some of the tape melted a bit.
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This stuff can't be re-used as it's all sticky from melted double sided tape.
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Here is the finished board looking normal and hopefully fixed!
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15. I suggest doing a hybrid fix on the GPU and CPU or a 'normal' fix on the CPU. Links can be found at the extras.

You can re-use the insulation.
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Here's a pic that shows the masking tape is undamaged! I recommend using this rather than Double sided tape.
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16. Test.
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Woopey-doo!

Extras
Blue-Tac is a great insulator
I suggest using sellotape and masking tape (masking tape on the top). Double sided tape gets too sticky.
Hybrid fix. http://xbox-experts.com/e/tutorial.php?n=hybrid
'Normal fix' I use smaller screws shown and have no washers between the board and screwhead. If you get a cheap one off ebay they come with instructions anyway.

Image If you don't want to go through the hassle of insulating your board (capacitors most importantly), you can desolder them and insulate the ports!Ha Ha Have fun!

Thank you Wilhelm for the original guide and input.

Hope this helps you all. Feel free to message me or post replies for any more information needed.
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Re: *-TUT-* How to Reflow Your 360 (Without a Rework Station)

Postby supermedo » Wed Jul 29, 2009 2:10 pm

Darn i did the oven trick before i read your tutorial anyway
i did the same thing expect i didn't cover the motherboard with tapes
i put it in 180 for 2 min then i change too 200 for 1 min then i put it in 260 for 2 mins
i put it to cool ,off nothing burned or anything
just waiting to cool off & try it if it didn't work i will try & follow all your step tomorrow
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Re: *-TUT-* How to Reflow Your 360 (Without a Rework Station)

Postby supermedo » Wed Jul 29, 2009 4:06 pm

:shock: it worked
it's ALIVE !!!!!
I love you man Thanks
not i will go & check the cooling mod before i put everything together :mrgreen:
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Re: *-TUT-* How to Reflow Your 360 (Without a Rework Station)

Postby Maleman420 » Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:57 pm

Ohh this will be interesting to try... I have quite a lot of returning rrod.

I'll let you know my success rate out of my boxes.
Any suggestions on my e76 box, or leave same areas open. Only thing i've found is the 32prong labeled " ics " chip gets scoulding hot >1second of turning the box on
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Re: *-TUT-* How to Reflow Your 360 (Without a Rework Station)

Postby BFG42 » Thu Jul 30, 2009 3:15 am

is this a pretty safe thing to try out??
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Re: *-TUT-* How to Reflow Your 360 (Without a Rework Station)

Postby Deary65 » Thu Jul 30, 2009 3:23 am

BFG42 wrote:is this a pretty safe thing to try out??

Well the only risks are the insulation catching fire i think. As you can see in one pic the masking tape didn't really burn! And the smoke inhalation.
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Re: *-TUT-* How to Reflow Your 360 (Without a Rework Station)

Postby Deary65 » Thu Jul 30, 2009 3:24 am

supermedo wrote::shock: it worked
it's ALIVE !!!!!
I love you man Thanks
not i will go & check the cooling mod before i put everything together :mrgreen:

Glad it worked!
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Re: *-TUT-* How to Reflow Your 360 (Without a Rework Station)

Postby Maleman420 » Thu Jul 30, 2009 4:19 am

how bad does it smell? haha not looking to piss people off in my house..
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Re: *-TUT-* How to Reflow Your 360 (Without a Rework Station)

Postby Deary65 » Thu Jul 30, 2009 5:43 am

Maleman420 wrote:how bad does it smell? haha not looking to piss people off in my house..

It smelt pretty bad. My mum came in saying "Bad smell! Bad smell!"
It should be ok if you close all the doors from the room you're in so the smell doesn't spread. Make sure all windows and doors that lead outside are open! Put a big fan in to blow the air out of one of the windows and it should be ok. The smell only lasted about half an hour without a fan.
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Re: *-TUT-* How to Reflow Your 360 (Without a Rework Station)

Postby Kakaboy » Thu Jul 30, 2009 5:56 am

Did you set it to fan forced or just normal .
I tried something like this but i didnt insulate and some chips and capacitors blew .
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Re: *-TUT-* How to Reflow Your 360 (Without a Rework Station)

Postby The Gigan » Thu Jul 30, 2009 7:19 am

why..why...? it so damn late... :( :( :( :( :(
why you post this thread after i fried 3 mobo by reflowing them...
if i can turn back time..
i think better using this methode before reflow them...
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Re: *-TUT-* How to Reflow Your 360 (Without a Rework Station)

Postby Deary65 » Thu Jul 30, 2009 7:41 am

Kakaboy wrote:Did you set it to fan forced or just normal .
I tried something like this but i didnt insulate and some chips and capacitors blew .

Personally i have no idea. It's a Microwave oven and i chose the oven setting. There was some airflow in there since the foil blew off.
Just set it to normal and it should be fine.
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Re: *-TUT-* How to Reflow Your 360 (Without a Rework Station)

Postby Wilhelm » Thu Jul 30, 2009 8:10 am

Looks pretty nice, good job mate. :D
I wouldnt suggest using real bubble wrap though because when it melts the mainboard will move around by a few millimeters which could possibly cause problems when it happens too rapidly, the foam sorta stuff will be the better choice if you got some.
And you gotta watch out that you fasten the insulation very thoroughly especially around the RAM otherwise it might move around and push on the chips or even move them around.
Lots of Xbox 360 Fixing related tutorials can be found here:
http://xbox-experts.com/e/tutorials.php

And if you want a clear analysis of the error your console is suffering from and the actions that need to be taken to fix it, check this out:
Xbox 360 Errorcode Guide/Analysis II Database/Wiki
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Re: *-TUT-* How to Reflow Your 360 (Without a Rework Station)

Postby Platypusz » Sun Aug 02, 2009 9:00 pm

cant you use a hair dryer?
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Re: *-TUT-* How to Reflow Your 360 (Without a Rework Station)

Postby Platypusz » Sun Aug 02, 2009 9:01 pm

use a hair dryer at the GPU?
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